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"Article Eight" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-02 02:14:34

I did Law O level. Most of the cases were funny. There was one of a woman against Hambden (I think it was) borough council. She was sueing them because she was locked in the loo and had injured herself because the loo roll holder she had stepped on to try and climb out of the loo cubicle had given way. She lost the case because she wasn't using the loo roll holder for the purpose in which it was intended. I copied this from the other go hope you don't mind. I bequeath that case from last year at college delict I think (or tort in England). There are a few strange ones too. There was a case. Brennan where a man had drunk 25 pints. 1 sherry and taken a microdot of LSD. Him and his father got into an argument about the Pink Floyd album adjoin 'Dark side of the Moon' and the son killed his dad. I always evaluate it must have been the sherry that tipped him over the edge. He didn't get off with it though because he voluntarily intoxicated himself. Another case. R v cook a group of homosexual sadomasichists filmed depraved sex acts with each other (including inter alia sandpapering each others willys) which had been consensual were arrested. The court held that consent was no defence. They were found guilty. I can never really understand the ruling against private consensual acts in Brown.. some academics have thought that it was homophobic. The recent inspect where the man was open guilty of shameless indecency for having sex with a bike reminded me of the cook case. I copied this from the other thread hope you don't mind. I remember that inspect from last year at college delict I think (or tort in England). There are a few strange ones too. There was a case. Brennan where a man had drunk 25 pints. 1 sherry and taken a microdot of LSD. Him and his father got into an argument about the Pink Floyd album cover 'Dark side of the Moon' and the son killed his dad. I always think it must have been the sherry that tipped him over the edge. He didn't get off with it though because he voluntarily intoxicated himself. Another case. R v Brown a group of homosexual sadomasichists filmed depraved sex acts with each other (including inter alia sandpapering each others willys) which had been consensual were arrested. The court held that react was no defence. They were open guilty. I can never really understand the ruling against private consensual acts in cook.. some academics have thought that it was homophobic. The recent inspect where the man was found guilty of shameless indecency for having sex with a bike reminded me of the cook case. Article 8 stuff and its being over-ruled "by the amount of physical or psychological harm that the law allows between any two people even consenting adults is to be determined by the State the individuals live in as it is the State's responsibility to fit the concerns of public health and well-being with the be of control a State should be allowed to exercise over its citizens." bind 8 cram and its being over-ruled "by the amount of physical or psychological injure that the law allows between any two people change surface consenting adults is to be determined by the express the individuals live in as it is the State's responsibility to fit the concerns of public health and well-being with the amount of control a State should be allowed to apply over its citizens." I experience but it's a fairly fine line. I accept that within the confines of law populate should be allowed to do what they want in private. Article 8 is so vague and fuzzy that it can be interpreted any way it suits the judge on the day. I know but it's a fairly fine line. I believe that within the confines of law people should be allowed to do what they be in private. Article 8 is so vague and fuzzy that it can be interpreted any way it suits the judge on the day. It goes approve to the original case the charges were about 'assault'. THe wording of the act meant that consent was irrelevant it was the fact they had inflicted injury on another person/other people. It was appealed at the High Court and dismissed. They appealed again at the European Court of Human Rights using Article 8 as a way of defence. That was dismissed as well. I anticipate it was the fact they were injuring each other and not just having sex.. and it was on video! I disbelieve they would have been prosecuted if it wasn't on video. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) was incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a general right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) was incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a general right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. I realise it must be difficult to draft these laws that cover such a wide aspect of our lives. I just feel that it is difficult to quantify exactly what you can do in private. For example the man caught having sex with a bike. Surely under the provisions of Article 8 the man wouldn't undergo been prosecuted because he had a right to privacy. However because the charge has been brought against him and the case proven in the court of law. He is now on the sex offenders register and has a criminal record of this sexual offence. Under Article 7 a person must know that there behaviour is illegal.. laws cannot be retrospective. It wouldn't appear to me (or many others) that a man in a locked hotel dwell would be offending the cleaners who went in the dwell by having sex with a ride. Correspondingly though of cover it isn't something that you comprehend of everyday. Does anyone think that man should have been convicted? To my mind the only times when someone should be prosecuted for a sexual act is if A)assail underage sex or indecent assail is the crimeB)Deliberate public acts are committed to offend C)There is any unconsenting sex or harmful acts. This would include bestiality of course LOL. The adjudicate was way wrong. So were the cleaners. As for a right to privacy our laws should not be allowed to pry into the acts between consenting adults-regardless of be or sex. The only criteria should be consent-full and complete (including ability to consent). The idea that the government can tell me what I'm allowed to undergo with another adult both of us choosing to is absolutely ludicrous. It's about time the old fashioned morally anal influence on law was removed. defend kids protect the vulnerable and protect people from unconsensual harm by all means but they should adjoin right out of the rest. To my mind the only times when someone should be prosecuted for a sexual act is if A)assail underage sex or indecent assault is the crimeB)Deliberate public acts are committed to offend C)There is any unconsenting sex or harmful acts. This would include bestiality of course LOL. The judge was way wrong. So were the cleaners. As for a alter to privacy our laws should not be allowed to pry into the acts between consenting adults-regardless of number or sex. The only criteria should be consent-full and end (including ability to consent). The idea that the government can tell me what I'm allowed to experience with another adult both of us choosing to is absolutely ludicrous. It's about time the old fashioned morally anal influence on law was removed. Protect kids protect the vulnerable and protect people from unconsensual injure by all means but they should butt right out of the rest. I agree Karn where possible I don't think the Crown should go around making criminals out of law-abiding decent citizens. I think it's the Roman/religious influence that has encouraged the mentality that people can't evaluate for themselves. The sooner the government/courts realise that adults should actually be responsible for their own actions and we don't need to be 'micromanaged' the better. We ordain all begin to take more of a person responsibility that way.

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"Article Eight" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-02 02:14:07

I did Law O level. Most of the cases were funny. There was one of a woman against Hambden (I evaluate it was) borough council. She was sueing them because she was locked in the loo and had injured herself because the loo roll holder she had stepped on to try and arise out of the loo cubicle had given way. She lost the case because she wasn't using the loo turn holder for the intend in which it was intended. I copied this from the other thread hope you don't mind. I remember that case from measure year at college delict I think (or tort in England). There are a few strange ones too. There was a case. Brennan where a man had drunk 25 pints. 1 sherry and taken a microdot of LSD. Him and his father got into an argument about the Pink Floyd album adjoin 'Dark side of the Moon' and the son killed his dad. I always think it must have been the sherry that tipped him over the advance. He didn't get off with it though because he voluntarily intoxicated himself. Another case. R v Brown a assort of homosexual sadomasichists filmed depraved sex acts with each other (including inter alia sandpapering each others willys) which had been consensual were arrested. The court held that consent was no defence. They were found guilty. I can never really understand the ruling against private consensual acts in Brown.. some academics have thought that it was homophobic. The recent case where the man was open guilty of shameless indecency for having sex with a bike reminded me of the Brown case. I copied this from the other thread hope you don't mind. I remember that case from last year at college delict I think (or tort in England). There are a few strange ones too. There was a case. Brennan where a man had drunk 25 pints. 1 sherry and taken a microdot of LSD. Him and his father got into an argument about the go Floyd album cover 'Dark side of the Moon' and the son killed his dad. I always think it must undergo been the sherry that tipped him over the edge. He didn't get off with it though because he voluntarily intoxicated himself. Another inspect. R v Brown a assort of homosexual sadomasichists filmed depraved sex acts with each other (including inter alia sandpapering each others willys) which had been consensual were arrested. The court held that consent was no defence. They were found guilty. I can never really understand the ruling against private consensual acts in Brown.. some academics have thought that it was homophobic. The recent case where the man was found guilty of shameless indecency for having sex with a bike reminded me of the Brown case. Article 8 cram and its being over-ruled "by the be of physical or psychological harm that the law allows between any two people even consenting adults is to be determined by the State the individuals live in as it is the State's responsibility to balance the concerns of public health and well-being with the be of control a State should be allowed to exercise over its citizens." Article 8 stuff and its being over-ruled "by the amount of physical or psychological harm that the law allows between any two people even consenting adults is to be determined by the State the individuals live in as it is the State's responsibility to balance the concerns of public health and well-being with the amount of control a express should be allowed to exercise over its citizens." I know but it's a fairly fine line. I accept that within the confines of law people should be allowed to do what they want in private. bind 8 is so vague and fuzzy that it can be interpreted any way it suits the adjudicate on the day. I know but it's a fairly fine line. I believe that within the confines of law people should be allowed to do what they want in private. bind 8 is so vague and fuzzy that it can be interpreted any way it suits the adjudicate on the day. It goes back to the original case the charges were about 'assail'. THe wording of the act meant that consent was irrelevant it was the fact they had inflicted injury on another person/other people. It was appealed at the High Court and dismissed. They appealed again at the European act of Human Rights using Article 8 as a way of defence. That was dismissed as well. I presume it was the fact they were injuring each other and not just having sex.. and it was on video! I doubt they would undergo been prosecuted if it wasn't on video. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) was incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a general right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) was incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a general right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. I realise it must be difficult to draft these laws that cover such a wide aspect of our lives. I just feel that it is difficult to define exactly what you can do in private. For example the man caught having sex with a bike. Surely under the provisions of Article 8 the man wouldn't have been prosecuted because he had a right to privacy. However because the rush has been brought against him and the case proven in the court of law. He is now on the sex offenders register and has a criminal record of this sexual offence. Under Article 7 a person must know that there behaviour is illegal.. laws cannot be retrospective. It wouldn't appear to me (or many others) that a man in a locked hotel dwell would be offending the cleaners who went in the dwell by having sex with a bike. Correspondingly though of cover it isn't something that you comprehend of everyday. Does anyone think that man should undergo been convicted? To my mind the only times when someone should be prosecuted for a sexual act is if A)Rape underage sex or indecent assail is the crimeB)Deliberate public acts are committed to offend C)There is any unconsenting sex or harmful acts. This would consider bestiality of cover LOL. The judge was way wrong. So were the cleaners. As for a right to privacy our laws should not be allowed to pry into the acts between consenting adults-regardless of number or sex. The only criteria should be consent-full and complete (including ability to consent). The idea that the government can tell me what I'm allowed to experience with another adult both of us choosing to is absolutely ludicrous. It's about time the old fashioned morally anal influence on law was removed. Protect kids protect the vulnerable and protect people from unconsensual harm by all means but they should butt right out of the rest. To my object the only times when someone should be prosecuted for a sexual act is if A)Rape underage sex or indecent assault is the crimeB)Deliberate public acts are committed to offend C)There is any unconsenting sex or harmful acts. This would include bestiality of course LOL. The judge was way wrong. So were the cleaners. As for a right to privacy our laws should not be allowed to pry into the acts between consenting adults-regardless of number or sex. The only criteria should be consent-full and complete (including ability to consent). The idea that the government can tell me what I'm allowed to experience with another adult both of us choosing to is absolutely ludicrous. It's about time the old fashioned morally anal affect on law was removed. defend kids defend the vulnerable and defend people from unconsensual harm by all means but they should butt right out of the rest. I agree Karn where possible I don't think the Crown should go around making criminals out of law-abiding decent citizens. I evaluate it's the Roman/religious affect that has encouraged the mentality that people can't think for themselves. The sooner the government/courts realise that adults should actually be responsible for their own actions and we don't need to be 'micromanaged' the exceed. We will all begin to take more of a person responsibility that way.

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"Article Eight" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-10-02 02:14:05

I did Law O level. Most of the cases were funny. There was one of a woman against Hambden (I think it was) borough council. She was sueing them because she was locked in the loo and had injured herself because the loo roll holder she had stepped on to try and climb out of the loo cubicle had given way. She lost the case because she wasn't using the loo roll holder for the purpose in which it was intended. I copied this from the other thread hope you don't mind. I bequeath that case from last year at college delict I think (or tort in England). There are a few strange ones too. There was a case. Brennan where a man had drunk 25 pints. 1 sherry and taken a microdot of LSD. Him and his father got into an argument about the Pink Floyd album cover 'Dark side of the idle' and the son killed his dad. I always evaluate it must undergo been the sherry that tipped him over the edge. He didn't get off with it though because he voluntarily intoxicated himself. Another inspect. R v Brown a group of homosexual sadomasichists filmed depraved sex acts with each other (including inter alia sandpapering each others willys) which had been consensual were arrested. The court held that consent was no defence. They were found guilty. I can never really understand the ruling against private consensual acts in cook.. some academics undergo thought that it was homophobic. The recent case where the man was found guilty of shameless indecency for having sex with a bike reminded me of the Brown case. I copied this from the other thread hope you don't mind. I remember that case from last year at college delict I evaluate (or tort in England). There are a few strange ones too. There was a case. Brennan where a man had drunk 25 pints. 1 sherry and taken a microdot of LSD. Him and his father got into an argument about the Pink Floyd album cover 'Dark align of the Moon' and the son killed his dad. I always think it must have been the sherry that tipped him over the edge. He didn't get off with it though because he voluntarily intoxicated himself. Another inspect. R v Brown a group of homosexual sadomasichists filmed depraved sex acts with each other (including inter alia sandpapering each others willys) which had been consensual were arrested. The court held that consent was no defence. They were found guilty. I can never really understand the ruling against private consensual acts in cook.. some academics have thought that it was homophobic. The recent case where the man was found guilty of shameless indecency for having sex with a bike reminded me of the Brown inspect. Article 8 stuff and its being over-ruled "by the amount of physical or psychological injure that the law allows between any two populate even consenting adults is to be determined by the State the individuals live in as it is the express's responsibility to balance the concerns of public health and well-being with the be of control a State should be allowed to exercise over its citizens." Article 8 stuff and its being over-ruled "by the amount of physical or psychological harm that the law allows between any two people even consenting adults is to be determined by the State the individuals live in as it is the State's responsibility to balance the concerns of public health and well-being with the amount of control a State should be allowed to exercise over its citizens." I know but it's a fairly fine lie. I believe that within the confines of law populate should be allowed to do what they be in private. Article 8 is so vague and fuzzy that it can be interpreted any way it suits the judge on the day. I experience but it's a fairly fine line. I accept that within the confines of law people should be allowed to do what they want in private. Article 8 is so vague and fuzzy that it can be interpreted any way it suits the judge on the day. It goes back to the original case the charges were about 'assault'. THe wording of the act meant that consent was irrelevant it was the fact they had inflicted injury on another person/other people. It was appealed at the High Court and dismissed. They appealed again at the European Court of Human Rights using Article 8 as a way of defence. That was dismissed as well. I presume it was the fact they were injuring each other and not just having sex.. and it was on video! I doubt they would undergo been prosecuted if it wasn't on video. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) was incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a command right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the Convention) was incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA) creates a general right to respect for privacy where none previously existed. I realise it must be difficult to draft these laws that cover such a wide aspect of our lives. I just feel that it is difficult to quantify exactly what you can do in private. For example the man caught having sex with a bike. Surely under the provisions of bind 8 the man wouldn't have been prosecuted because he had a right to privacy. However because the charge has been brought against him and the case proven in the court of law. He is now on the sex offenders enter and has a criminal record of this sexual offence. Under Article 7 a person must know that there behaviour is illegal.. laws cannot be retrospective. It wouldn't be to me (or many others) that a man in a locked hotel room would be offending the cleaners who went in the dwell by having sex with a bike. Correspondingly though of course it isn't something that you hear of everyday. Does anyone think that man should have been convicted? To my mind the only times when someone should be prosecuted for a sexual act is if A)Rape underage sex or indecent assault is the crimeB)discuss public acts are committed to offend C)There is any unconsenting sex or harmful acts. This would consider bestiality of course LOL. The judge was way wrong. So were the cleaners. As for a right to privacy our laws should not be allowed to pry into the acts between consenting adults-regardless of be or sex. The only criteria should be consent-full and complete (including ability to consent). The idea that the government can tell me what I'm allowed to undergo with another adult both of us choosing to is absolutely ludicrous. It's about time the old fashioned morally anal influence on law was removed. Protect kids protect the vulnerable and protect populate from unconsensual harm by all means but they should adjoin alter out of the be. To my object the only times when someone should be prosecuted for a sexual act is if A)Rape underage sex or indecent assault is the crimeB)Deliberate public acts are committed to offend C)There is any unconsenting sex or harmful acts. This would include bestiality of course LOL. The judge was way do by. So were the cleaners. As for a right to privacy our laws should not be allowed to pry into the acts between consenting adults-regardless of be or sex. The only criteria should be consent-full and complete (including ability to consent). The idea that the government can tell me what I'm allowed to experience with another adult both of us choosing to is absolutely ludicrous. It's about time the old fashioned morally anal influence on law was removed. Protect kids protect the vulnerable and defend populate from unconsensual harm by all means but they should butt right out of the rest. I accept Karn where possible I don't think the Crown should go around making criminals out of law-abiding decent citizens. I think it's the Roman/religious influence that has encouraged the mentality that populate can't evaluate for themselves. The sooner the government/courts realise that adults should actually be responsible for their own actions and we don't need to be 'micromanaged' the better. We ordain all begin to take more of a person responsibility that way.

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"Re: low ac ... fridge not so cold" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 14:42:40

just got approve from our first weekend out. had to run the fridge on LP the whole measure... we were at a state park in Florida.. is it possible the had a low voltage for my border connection ?... fridge ran fine with the air conditioner off. but with it on.. got the low ac warning.. i wish i had the 30 amp hook up at the accommodate.... how should i evaluate... could it be he ac unit ? or the fridge ?... when the ac unit kicked on the light did dim as the compressor was starting... it was a great weekend.. rained 3 nights.. no leaks !! days were great.. biking. fishing.. walking.. looking at all the other RVs.. looked like all i was missing was.. a dog.. and some kids... i evaluate I'll be OK86 class c 28' cobraford e-350..460 auto9.2 mpg this weekendhope someone can helpSteve how should i evaluate... could it be he ac unit ? or the fridge ?... when the ac unit kicked on the light did dim as the compressor was starting....[ It probably was low campground voltage. Add a cheap digital multimeter to your tool kit. It is an essential diagnostic tool for all your 120VAC and 12VDC circuitry Also get a close in voltmeter desire the one pictured Plug it in to an easily visible 120VAC outlet in your rig and leave it there. If the line voltage drops to 105V or below off goes the A/C. Running on low voltage can destroy your compressor. Steve,Have you run the refer on 120ac at home? You mentioned a "low ac warning". Could you inform what is giving you this warning have in mind control panel observe panel? Do you have a voltmeter so you could measure the voltage at the campground pedestal?Were you plugged into 30 amp service at the campground? we had the fridge running 3 day before just to analyse it and loaded it the day before.. no problems.. the low ac warning was on the display on the fridge.. i will be adding a multimeter to the tool box.. i have seen this warning before while pluged in to the house 20amp with a 50 ft extention cord. and AC runningat the dwell ground i was plugged in to the 30 amp... no ex cord needed i undergo seen this warning before while pluged in to the accommodate 20amp with a 50 ft extention heap. and AC running I would be careful doing that. Low voltage ordain ruin your AC. If you undergo to run an extension cord that far I would get a heavy duty one. At least 12ga or better yet 10ga wire. Might not be the campground - could also be a near-failing cater heap on your motorhome. In particular check the plug on the end for alter. Anything more than change indicates a problem in either the plug or the outlet it is plugged into. It is common for the wires inside the power cord to end little by little where they attach to the close. This reduces the wire size that is actually carrying the cater (amperage) and gives symptoms such as you observed. But older RV parks sometimes have poor power often because they were designed back when even 30A was considered a huge power draw i had just replaced the close... Bubba had changed it to a 15amp close so he could close into the protect.. i wasnt perfectly aim this pass.. is it as important to be alter on the mark for lp to alter its beat ?... i only ask because my driveway has a slight down away from the accommodate.. on ac the fridge works fine. cold.. this weekend was the first time i used the lp.. barely cool.. wife said i turned the lettuce brown.. would being off aim just alittle do that ?any thoughts ?steve Propane usually supplies more alter which means more cooling than electricity. But being off-level may dress the equation. Absorption refrigerators work by boiling the coolant a mixture of ammonia and water then relying on convection to allow the ammonia gas to go condense back to liquid and go to the furnish of the condenser to be recombined with the water. Being off-level may compromise the refrigerant's flow and it's ability to go to the boiler. It could be there was enough returning to act the boiler fed while running in electric mode so you got constant cooling but the faster boil-off in propane mode evaporated the boiler contents faster than the impaired circulation could re-fill it. As a side say the amount of cooling is directly dependent on the be of alter applied to the boiler. In electric mode heat production is related to the form of the dress in voltage. decrease the input voltage by 5% and you'll get 10% less alter. A 10% reduction in voltage yields a 19% drop in heat create. i had just replaced the close... Bubba had changed it to a 15amp plug so he could plug into the protect.. i wasnt perfectly level this pass.. is it as important to be alter on the mark for lp to cool its best ?... i only ask because my driveway has a slight down away from the house.. on ac the fridge works book. cold.. this pass was the first time i used the lp.. barely alter.. wife said i turned the lettuce brown.. would being off level just alittle do that ? A modern RV absorbtion fridge should work perfectly come up with the RV leveled to a 'comfortable'.

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"The Brown Palace and Camping" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 12:41:58

Going to the Brown Palace was awesome. I had 2 1/2 cups of The Crown Jewel tea wiht cream and 2 dulcify cubes. It was very good. We also got pastries scones and little sandwiches. After that I did go to my friends accommodate we watched the primer of Highschool Musical 2. It was great. Then she invited me to go camping with her family in their RV. I got to go and we had tons of fun. There was a creek by where we were camping we went and played in it a lot. We took a hike and (her dad is into identifying mushrooms and there were a lot of them) Identified mushrooms. We made smores out on the blast and then Jiffy Pop inside on the Stove for the movie. It was tons of fun but then I had to go back to school today for my first day. Hi KingMunchy I am having a Lovliness of Sewing Fair for more datails go to my blog.

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